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Post by NinjaTurtleDude on Aug 17, 2013 13:43:57 GMT -5
I have some ideas for the lifelines. This may also include new lifelines.
1) Google+
Contestants can get help from a random person via Google+ hangout call. For the Google+ people, to sign up to get called, they must pass a 5 question quiz and enter their Google+ info.
2) Ask the Audience
This is similar to the ABC version. Not only the audience can vote. Home viewers can also vote by texting the answer.
3) Facebook/Twitter (Working on Name)
3 answers posted on Facebook and/or Twitter are hidden. The player picks one of the posts and it'll be revealed.
Feel free to reply about my ideas.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2013 15:00:50 GMT -5
For the 3rd lifeline, how about Tweet Seat (like HotSeat)?
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Post by sand.rules on Aug 17, 2013 15:48:59 GMT -5
I think the problem with the all three is that there is massive potential for people who are completely clueless or want to ruin the game for everyone else to give misleading answers. Also regarding the text lifeline, it takes a long time for mobile networks to reach the studio, and takes longer to read every text and analyse the content. Also, it would be costly for the network as they would have to rent out those lines. Also, when replays are shown it would mean each programme would have to have some notification saying that lines are closed or the game is a recap and is not live.
Not many people use Google+ and it sounds like the Ask The Expert lifeline but with a random stranger.
Also, regarding the third lifeline, the contestant and host would have to wait for answers off of a social network website which can be unreliable as other technical mishaps can occur.
I think the second lifeline has potential if you consider changing the way home viewers vote by having it in the people play app or something.
So for example, the question is revealed to the contestant and people playing at home. If you use Ask The Audience, it will give two displays; one of the displays showing what the studio audience think, and another showing what people have chosen as their option at home, or are currently choosing, as they do not have a timer. Then the results are shown to the contestant.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2013 15:53:53 GMT -5
So for example, the question is revealed to the contestant and people playing at home. If you use Ask The Audience, it will give two displays; one of the displays showing what the studio audience think, and another showing what people have chosen as their option at home, or are currently choosing, as they do not have a timer. Then the results are shown to the contestant. Isn't that exactly what the US did? Plus, the texting stuff wouldn't be an issue as American Idol's been doing it with no problem whatsoever. |
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Post by sand.rules on Aug 17, 2013 16:05:48 GMT -5
So for example, the question is revealed to the contestant and people playing at home. If you use Ask The Audience, it will give two displays; one of the displays showing what the studio audience think, and another showing what people have chosen as their option at home, or are currently choosing, as they do not have a timer. Then the results are shown to the contestant. Isn't that exactly what the US did? Plus, the texting stuff wouldn't be an issue as American Idol's been doing it with no problem whatsoever. Well, I'm not from America so I wouldn't know. But from all other phone-text based game shows there's usually always a 3-4 minute pause so that they can count votes. You can't have a pause like that in a fast-paced tension game. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2013 17:35:31 GMT -5
Well, I'm not from America so I wouldn't know. But from all other phone-text based game shows there's usually always a 3-4 minute pause so that they can count votes. You can't have a pause like that in a fast-paced tension game. I guess the only work around would be to have the home audience text their answer as soon as the question appears, which in essence would be playing along like Play It! |
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Post by doctorwho on Aug 17, 2013 20:19:43 GMT -5
2) Ask the Audience This is similar to the ABC version. Not only the audience can vote. Home viewers can also vote by texting the answer. Pardon me if I'm remembering this wrong, but didn't the syndie version do something like this with AOL for a couple seasons? |
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Post by FinalAnswer19 on Aug 17, 2013 20:42:41 GMT -5
Yeah, they were known as "the AOL instant messaging crowd."
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Post by Kimarough on Aug 17, 2013 22:56:02 GMT -5
How about just have a friend on Skype and just have that work as "Phone a Friend"?
Just call it "Skype A Friend" If the producers see them type something out or try and go on google, they can cut the call and begin the time again.
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Post by NinjaTurtleDude on Aug 25, 2013 18:42:45 GMT -5
NEW LIFELINE IDEA:
This could have been used only for the Clock format. Contestants can get really stressful if they're being timed on a question and they might need more time. So, there should be a Pause lifeline that can stop the clock or an Extra Time lifeline. This might be a dumb idea since it was a forced walk if time ran out.
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Post by Victor on Aug 26, 2013 4:22:06 GMT -5
If it were up to me, this would be the lifeline I would introduce: Google The Answer
It's what the Phone-A-Friends do a lot of the time anyway. Now just give somebody a laptop and 30 seconds to search for the answer. Let the viewer see the computer screen in a split screen, that might be interesting.
The particular benefit of this lifeline: it's incredibly useful when most lifelines aren't anymore -- after the second milestone. Ask the Audience is completely unreliable after that. Fifty-fifty is great if you are truly torn between two answers but of no use if you don't know the answer. And Phone-A-Friend is a lucky shot.
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Post by sand.rules on Aug 26, 2013 5:06:21 GMT -5
If it were up to me, this would be the lifeline I would introduce: Google The Answer It's what the Phone-A-Friends do a lot of the time anyway. Now just give somebody a laptop and 30 seconds to search for the answer. Let the viewer see the computer screen in a split screen, that might be interesting. The particular benefit of this lifeline: it's incredibly useful when most lifelines aren't anymore -- after the second milestone. Ask the Audience is completely unreliable after that. Fifty-fifty is great if you are truly torn between two answers but of no use if you don't know the answer. And Phone-A-Friend is a lucky shot. The amount of times someone has proposed this lifeline or a re-hashed version of it -_- The reason why this will not and will never happen is because Who Wants to be a Millionaire is about the knowledge in someone's head. Surely they would have kept Phone-A-Friend because they knew people were Googling it, that's why when Phone-A-Friend was removed, Meredith said "it all comes down to what happens in someone's head". When you're using Google, not only are you basically "cheating" as it is practically a way of skipping a high difficulty question as nearly all questions can be Googled, it also means that you're querying a special audience; the ones that know everything in that field. So if you Google wikipedia, the article the question is from is probably written by the specialist in that field, rather than the general public. I have always disagreed with this idea. I think people need to remember a lifeline is what it is. A lifeline. It is not a way of skipping a question or getting free money by passing a round, a lifeline only hints towards an answer, it will not provide an answer for you unless you have the necessary logic to do so yourself. |
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Post by Victor on Aug 26, 2013 5:19:21 GMT -5
Interesting. That's good analysis on the essence of the game and its lifelines.
The thing is though, with Google-The-Answer you still have to make a judgement call as to whether the information you searched for in a short period of time is accurate. You probably don't have the time to double check. There's a lot of misinformation out there (for the reason that you cite: Wikipedia can be edited by anyone).
In that sense, it's like Ask-The-Audience. They might prefer a certain answer, but you still have to decide whether they are right. Ultimately it's still your call if you are a contestant.
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Post by sand.rules on Aug 26, 2013 11:55:50 GMT -5
Interesting. That's good analysis on the essence of the game and its lifelines. The thing is though, with Google-The-Answer you still have to make a judgement call as to whether the information you searched for in a short period of time is accurate. You probably don't have the time to double check. There's a lot of misinformation out there (for the reason that you cite: Wikipedia can be edited by anyone). In that sense, it's like Ask-The-Audience. They might prefer a certain answer, but you still have to decide whether they are right. Ultimately it's still your call if you are a contestant. Except it is entirely dependent on Internet Speed as well as the Google service being online. Besides, anyone can google an answer and get a load of the information. It's also unfair to past contestants as Googling an answer will 99% guarantee a correct answer. |
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Post by Victor on Aug 26, 2013 16:50:46 GMT -5
Well, if you can't ever change the rules out of fairness to past contestants, this thread would be kind of pointless, wouldn't it?  They've changed them before and will likely change them again. But fair point about the internet connection, though the Skype lifeline was also dependent on that. Nonetheless, it would hurt a contestant if Wikipeadia was offline for even a few seconds during use of the lifeline. |
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) I guess the next on will be Poland then...
They've changed them before and will likely change them again.