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Post by millionaireloveruk on Jan 17, 2015 8:21:29 GMT -5
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Post by Gagamillionaire on Jan 17, 2015 11:13:28 GMT -5
That article is hardly a piece of unbiased journalism. It was written by the authors of that new book about the incident. And it tries much too hard to make Ingram look innocent, without giving much evidence. Just look at the arguments: - Ingram didn't know Tecwen Whittock, but his wife had been in contact
with him on several occasions because of their "mutual passion for game
shows". Does that mean Ingram didn't care about quizzes? You don't win a
million pounds if you're not somewhat interested in useless knowledge
and trivia. If he had been a quiz show enthusiast, how come his wife
would have been in contact with him but not he himself? The article
makes it look like some sort of jealous love triangle. Not impossible,
but implausible. Additionally, the article argues that if the three had
wanted to cheat, they would have planned the scam more meticulously than just during three
phone calls. Of course, there is no other way for people to get in
touch. It's not like we can just visit each other at home.
- The article says that Whittock suffered from several illnesses which
made him cough, and which were bound to get worse in a TV studio. You
don't hear him cough a single time during his time in the hot seat. As
his turn was immediately after Ingram's, his condition shouldn't have
been better than when Ingram was playing. You could pin that on editing,
but he doesn't cough while he reads out his phone-a-friend-question and
you never hear him while Chris reads out the questions or chats with
him.
What's more, Ingram always checked with his helpers if the
answers they had given him were right. That was probably to make sure
unconnected coughs were not interpreted as hints. That makes Whittock's
alleged "uselessness" due to his illness a moot point. You can hold back
a cough for a few moments if you have to and even if not, Ingram always
double-, or triple-, checked.
At the end, the article also says that
the "significant" coughs came from two different people. If anything,
that just means somebody else than Whittock was involved, too. It could
be Diana, or maybe somebody else nobody noticed, but it doesn't prove
that the coughs were not suspicious.
- The fact that Chris and most of the contestants-in-waiting didn't
notice anything isn't too surprising either. The contestants most likely
were pretty nervous and didn't think much of the goings-on, and Chris
was obviously busy with Ingram. Then there was the music too. I think
you would have had to listen very intently to hear anything. Ingram knew
of the plan, so obviously he was focused, but nobody connects coughs to
anything if they're completely unsuspecting.
- Apparently, there was an 18 minute period where Whittock didn't help
Ingram. I'm not entirely sure what that means exactly. If it means that he
didn't cough at all during that period, I find the story about the
coughing illness unbelievable. If it is supposed to mean that Whittock
just didn't cough to help Ingram, that doesn't refute the jury's
conviction either. It could have been an (admittedly risky) attempt to
make the scam less obvious by suspending it for a while so that the
coughing didn't look (or sound) systematic. Or Whittock just didn't know
the correct answer. Apparently he kept talking to one of the other
contestants about the questions Ingram was playing and got some of his information from them. Maybe neither
Whittock, nor Ingram's wife or the contestant(s) sitting next to
Whittock knew the right answer(s). They couldn't cough if they had no
clue.
- The article also raises the question how Whittock could have helped
Ingram win the million when he left with just one thousand pounds later.
I can do nothing but guess here, but even if he was a quiz show
fanatic, he couldn't know everything. Maybe he just got lucky with
Ingram's questions and knew a lot of his answers and was unlucky enough
to get one he couldn't answer during his own run. And don't forget that Whittock was able to talk to the other contestants during Ingram's run.
When he got the
news that he had lost, he didn't look too shocked, so maybe his giving a
wrong answer was just another trick to make it look like he couldn't
possibly have given Ingram all the right answers. He would have gotten a
share of the million pound prize anyway. I admit that theory is a
little far-fetched, but if he had been such a quiz show fan, wouldn't he
have taken it much harder that he had just lost the game at such an
early stage? Of course it could be because he is generally a very
phlegmatic person, but I do find it a little fishy.
The writers obviously try to create this tear-jerking underdog story. Nothing they say exonerates Charles Ingram. I suppose they know as much, as they keep sprinkling little anecdotes about the Ingrams' pitiful life after the incident into the article to appeal to the readers' hearts. That suicide story alone made me cringe. Just to make one thing clear, I do not think the Ingrams deserved what happened to them and how their life has deteriorated. Anybody who has contemplated to kill themselves should be helped, not ridiculed or ignored, but using these chapters of your own or somebody else's history to advertise a book and make a profit is despicable. Of course, this could be said about most investigative journalism, so I'll leave it at that. In conclusion, I think Ingram was guilty and that article doesn't convince me otherwise. The authors fail to present the facts in a plausible and coherent fashion. Maybe the book they advertise is better in that regard, but I would have preferred it if they had stayed objective and left out the parts about the Ingrams' personal life. P.S.: On the website that sells the book about the incident, on the "About Us" page it says that one of the authors won £250,000 on Millionaire in 2005. So much about the "Bad Show"... |
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Post by millionaireloveruk on Jan 17, 2015 11:31:00 GMT -5
That article is hardly a piece of unbiased journalism. The newspaper it was taken from is a tabloid, so unbiased journalism is not unusual in there. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2015 11:59:16 GMT -5
P.S.: On the website that sells the book about the incident, on the "About Us" page it says that one of the authors won £250,000 on Millionaire in 2005. So much about the "Bad Show"... Wasn't James Plaskett who wrote the essay about Major (Fraud) Ingram's complete innocence before he won £250,000 in 2005? |
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Post by SGCSam on Jan 18, 2015 7:58:24 GMT -5
I mean look the point is, yes, I believe he was guilty. Do I believe he should be continued to be ridiculed? No. He committed a crime, and got punished for it. People should learn the case is over, the verdict has been given and let the couple at least try to get on with their lives.
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Post by millionairefan64 on Jan 18, 2015 22:54:03 GMT -5
Seeing Charles Ingram's run so many times on YouTube, yes he was definitely guilty of cheating. However, it makes me sick that people were turning on him and his family because of it, even long after it happened. How can the Ingrams let it go and move on when people either keep bringing it up and/or keep picking on them. They cheated, they got consequences, end of story. |
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Post by zsolti853 on Jan 19, 2015 6:44:31 GMT -5
I don't think he was,because i don't know which question i believe it was the 125,000 pound question he said "Am i sure?". I think now that's pretty obvious...
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Post by Logie Bear on Jan 19, 2015 16:26:41 GMT -5
Not sure...I think guilty though.
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) I guess the next on will be Poland then...
