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Post by Peachfanclub on May 19, 2017 17:37:41 GMT -5
From what I've heard, the answers taken away by 50/50 were preselected when the show was introduced, then it was random for the longest time. You would hear Regis/Meredith tell the computer to randomly take away the two wrong answers.
Since the lifeline was reinstated with Chris taking over as host, I haven't heard any mention of the randomness of the selected incorrect answers. And on many an occasion from season 14 onwards, the selected incorrect answers have usually been already dismissed by the contestant and/or myself. Sounds like the new 50/50 is no longer random, so what gives?
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Post by retched on May 19, 2017 19:33:29 GMT -5
It's still random. Even if Chris isn't mentioning it, there is still someone back there with the controller to make sure there is no form of fixing going on. The last thing anyone needs is any kind of ammunition to bring the show's producers in front of a congressional hearing about this practice.
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Post by mysteryman123 on May 20, 2017 13:57:28 GMT -5
It's still random. Even if Chris isn't mentioning it, there is still someone back there with the controller to make sure there is no form of fixing going on. The last thing anyone needs is any kind of ammunition to bring the show's producers in front of a congressional hearing about this practice. Then how do you explain the fact that every time a contestant uses 50/50 on a number or size-related question, it always leaves B and C? |
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Post by Peachfanclub on May 20, 2017 14:04:36 GMT -5
It's still random. Even if Chris isn't mentioning it, there is still someone back there with the controller to make sure there is no form of fixing going on. The last thing anyone needs is any kind of ammunition to bring the show's producers in front of a congressional hearing about this practice. Then how do you explain the fact that every time a contestant uses 50/50 on a number or size-related question, it always leaves B and C? But it doesn't. In an episode I watched a few months ago, it left C and D as the remaining choices. Besides, you wouldn't be able to rig it to leave B and C if the correct answer is not B or C. |
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Post by gameshowfan1995 on May 20, 2017 15:23:13 GMT -5
Then how do you explain the fact that every time a contestant uses 50/50 on a number or size-related question, it always leaves B and C? But it doesn't. In an episode I watched a few months ago, it left C and D as the remaining choices. Besides, you wouldn't be able to rig it to leave B and C if the correct answer is not B or C. Exactly. I personally don't believe that 50:50 is rigged. It just unfortunately falls on bad luck, really, when you've already eliminated two wrong answers and use 50:50, only to have the two answers eliminated be the ones the computer removes. Of course, that's just my own personal opinion on the subject. |
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Post by Gagamillionaire on May 21, 2017 1:31:58 GMT -5
I'd like to point out that the official rules on the website don't say anything about it being random either. I'm no expert on law, let alone US laws, but would a lawsuit hold up if a contestant did rightfully challenge the randomness? As long as nobody expressly states that it isn't predetermined, it's only the players' expectations that are violated. I doubt there is a fairness clause for gameshows, is there? Surely that would provoke many contestant to take legal action on the basis of "my questions were harder than the last big winner's".
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Post by retched on May 21, 2017 23:47:03 GMT -5
I'd like to point out that the official rules on the website don't say anything about it being random either. I'm no expert on law, let alone US laws, but would a lawsuit hold up if a contestant did rightfully challenge the randomness? As long as nobody expressly states that it isn't predetermined, it's only the players' expectations that are violated. I doubt there is a fairness clause for gameshows, is there? Surely that would provoke many contestant to take legal action on the basis of "my questions were harder than the last big winner's". Generally speaking, the only fairness involved as far as the courts and law is concerned is that it is completely predetermined the final result of the game. |
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Post by Peachfanclub on May 21, 2017 23:52:52 GMT -5
I'd like to point out that the official rules on the website don't say anything about it being random either. I'm no expert on law, let alone US laws, but would a lawsuit hold up if a contestant did rightfully challenge the randomness? As long as nobody expressly states that it isn't predetermined, it's only the players' expectations that are violated. I doubt there is a fairness clause for gameshows, is there? Surely that would provoke many contestant to take legal action on the basis of "my questions were harder than the last big winner's". I don't think the judicial system would want to get involved with that, anyway. If the rules say nothing about the randomness of a lifeline, the show likely will/should get away with making it not random. There may be an extra detail in the contract that the producers have the contestants sign regarding this issue. |
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Post by millionaire1999 on May 26, 2017 22:40:31 GMT -5
I personally don't think it is rigged, but 50:50 may be predetermined by selecting the two obvious wrong answers. It may seem like the 50:50 is rigged, but it's doing what the contestant did. They would often talk their way through a question and narrow it down to whatever they feel is correct, and once the 50:50 gets rid of those exact two, it offered no help whatsoever.
While I can't necessarily prove this 100%, I did notice how the 50:50 would never leave behind a joke answer or a highly unlikely answer in questions before the first threshold. Watching this season, there were a lot of contestants struggling with the first five questions, and those who used their 50:50 and had that outcome, made me feel my hypothesis was correct. It could be predetermined to some extent and not totally random.
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Post by Peachfanclub on May 29, 2017 0:52:10 GMT -5
The more I think about it, it's only reasonable that the two removed answers are set well before the contestant has talked through the question. Doing this would retain some randomness in a sense, since the absolute last thing a contestant wants is to inadvertently influence which answers are taken away.
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Post by retched on May 30, 2017 18:03:16 GMT -5
The more I think about it, it's only reasonable that the two removed answers are set well before the contestant has talked through the question. Doing this would retain some randomness in a sense, since the absolute last thing a contestant wants is to inadvertently influence which answers are taken away. On some of the WWTBAM Behind-The-Scenes specials, you'll see that they mention setting the 50/50 answers. |
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Post by bigtime067 on May 30, 2017 19:32:19 GMT -5
I was a contestant on the show. My episode actually airs today.  Before I was up, I sat with their lawyer and he went over lots of things. One of which was the 50/50. It's predetermined which answers will be removed far ahead of time. The way they determine those may be random, but they know weeks before the contestant decides to use it. |
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Post by kplewisvox on Jun 1, 2017 15:33:14 GMT -5
Rigged implies that somebody is choosing the answers backstage after hearing what the contestant says, so calling it rigged is a pet peeve of mine. Predetermined, yes. Not random, yes. Rigged, no.
Incidentally, watch for when 50:50 is used in the first five questions. Often they WILL leave a joke answer up there just to throw the player a bone.
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) I guess the next on will be Poland then...
