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Post by wolf4537 on Jan 31, 2018 12:28:36 GMT -5
I had this posted in another thread, but I realized it was in the wrong area to post it in, so I'll make a new topic about it.
When it comes to questions in the Prime time version of the show, it seemed like certain subjects were deemed easier/harder in regards to the $$ amount. The biggest case in point in terms of seeing certain subjects ranked much higher in difficulty, were Astronomy questions it seemed. Three examples:
Dan Blonsky's Million dollar question:
Then we break it down further with quite possibly the EASIEST $2,000 question I have EVER seen:
How this is a $2,000 question is beyond me. Should be at most a $300 question.
Another case in point:
Were there any other subjects that you can think of where there seemed to be a pattern as to where they were placed in terms of difficulty?
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Post by kplewisvox on Jan 31, 2018 16:34:07 GMT -5
During Regis' version, science questions were frequently overvalued, and these are great examples. "Where is the asteroid belt?" went for $250,000 as well.
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Post by millionairefan64 on Jan 31, 2018 20:03:21 GMT -5
I remember seeing Dan Blonsky's question the first time his episode repeated years ago. I knew the answer right away and I was a pre-teen. When it comes down to it, the questions are supposed to become more difficult for the contestant further up they go however like Chris Tarrant Says "It's only easy if you know the answer."
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Post by The Captain on Feb 10, 2018 5:33:15 GMT -5
I think that a major problem which would fall under this category is that questions sometimes look ridiculously obscure, like I could open a science book, find some random mathematical constant for example and then make a question about it, barring anyone from winning. And I think this is particularly problematic because it testes neither your general knowledge of stuff, neither your ability to extrapolate an answer based on what you know. I mean even scientists don't remember such things by heart.
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Post by wolf4537 on Feb 13, 2018 14:39:38 GMT -5
I think that a major problem which would fall under this category is that questions sometimes look ridiculously obscure, like I could open a science book, find some random mathematical constant for example and then make a question about it, barring anyone from winning. And I think this is particularly problematic because it testes neither your general knowledge of stuff, neither your ability to extrapolate an answer based on what you know. I mean even scientists don't remember such things by heart. The best example I can think of in the Prime time version would be this: No one is going to know something this obscure unless they religiously studied the actual TV show. Then when it comes to the more recent Millionaire shows (though I can't believe these were almost 10 years ago) two other perfect examples would be Ken Basin's million dollar question about LBJ's drink choices (I mean who is going to actually look up stuff like that in general?!?!), and this one too from the syndicated show: Questions like this one above though are a perfect example of bringing the clock format into effect. Maybe if there was no clock, it just might make it a bit easier to figure things out, but with only 45 seconds, you would already need to have a rough idea to have any shot at getting it right.
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Post by The Captain on Feb 14, 2018 11:51:02 GMT -5
I genuinely laughed at the first video, hadn’t seen it before... so this guy was asked a ridiculously obscure question AND had 3 lifelines... so why didn’t he use the 50-50 first? That would narrow it down for the audience too (although to be fair they would probably still have voted for D anyway)... wolf4537
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Post by kplewisvox on Feb 14, 2018 16:58:38 GMT -5
I genuinely laughed at the first video, hadn’t seen it before... so this guy was asked a ridiculously obscure question AND had 3 lifelines... so why didn’t he use the 50-50 first? That would narrow it down for the audience too (although to be fair they would probably still have voted for D anyway)... wolf4537 Always ask the audience first. If you narrow it down first, you might get 80% for one answer, but if 70% are guessing, you're hosed. Whereas if you get a big majority out of four choices, you can be much more confident in that. Bernie Cullen understood that. Watch how it worked for him:
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Post by wolf4537 on Feb 15, 2018 1:10:54 GMT -5
kplewisvox is absolutely right. Bernie was the first person to do this sort of strategy, which surprised Regis. Only other person I can remember in the same position before Bernie was David Goodman, who used the 50:50 first before ATA. The audience still guessed the right answer when all was said and done.
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Post by The Captain on Feb 17, 2018 12:42:21 GMT -5
I don’t get understand what kplewisvox means... the audience is encouraged to only vote if they know the answer, or at least, that is what happens in the greek version... does the American one not do that?
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Post by GSK on Feb 17, 2018 13:19:11 GMT -5
I don’t get understand what kplewisvox means... the audience is encouraged to only vote if they know the answer, or at least, that is what happens in the greek version... does the American one not do that? I can also confirm that in the American tapings, you are advised to only vote if you know the answer or think you know the answer.
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Post by kplewisvox on Feb 17, 2018 21:16:16 GMT -5
I don’t get understand what kplewisvox means... the audience is encouraged to only vote if they know the answer, or at least, that is what happens in the greek version... does the American one not do that? I can also confirm that in the American tapings, you are advised to only vote if you know the answer or think you know the answer. But if you think the audience is heeding that request, I've got a bridge to sell you. Everyone in the audience is going to vote. Some of them know the answer, some of them think they know it but are wrong, some are picking blindly. The bottom line is if the audience doesn't know, you WANT the result to be spread out so you don't get tricked into an expensive mistake.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 6:19:40 GMT -5
I can also confirm that in the American tapings, you are advised to only vote if you know the answer or think you know the answer. But if you think the audience is heeding that request, I've got a bridge to sell you. Everyone in the audience is going to vote. Some of them know the answer, some of them think they know it but are wrong, some are picking blindly. The bottom line is if the audience doesn't know, you WANT the result to be spread out so you don't get tricked into an expensive mistake. That's true. But if we want to conclude the voting procedure for the audience, it is still going to be up to you, the contestant, to make a decision: Would the "idea" from the audience help you out or would you rather reject that choice? Technically, you'll have to think over the entire question in case it should be an obsecure one, since you want the question to get easier in order to answer it correctly.
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Post by wolf4537 on Feb 18, 2018 14:32:05 GMT -5
Going back to my first post, here's another astronomy question. This one though I actually think is placed a lot higher than it should be, but then again, this is from 2007.
I would think it's pretty common knowledge for people to know that Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune are all A LOT bigger than the Earth, so then it would be whether people think Mars is bigger than the Earth. I think the 50:50 here hurt the contestant cause it narrowed it down to what I just mentioned, in which he picked wrongly. I think if it were today though with all the technology advancements and focus on astronomy more and more, I think this question would probably be maybe $25,000 or lower.
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Post by kplewisvox on Feb 18, 2018 18:20:35 GMT -5
I would think it's pretty common knowledge for people to know that Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune are all A LOT bigger than the Earth, so then it would be whether people think Mars is bigger than the Earth. It's actually Venus you have to wonder about. Venus is "Earth's Twin" because they're so close in size. If you don't know that Mars is markably smaller than Earth, you've got three choices you have to choose from. This question sort of came up again during the first Kids Week, this time for $100,000.
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Post by wolf4537 on Feb 19, 2018 10:02:05 GMT -5
That's true, Venus is closer to Earth in size than Mars, though I guess me personally I've always considered Venus to be smaller than the Earth anyway.
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