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some unusual European money trees after Euro changeover Mar 10, 2018 0:51:17 GMT -5

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Post by rifkialqadri on Mar 10, 2018 0:51:17 GMT -5

before euro changeover, some versions (mainly Austrian, German, and Italian) have reasonable, rational money trees with the same pattern as the U.K. version. but since the Euro changeover in 2002, those versions have had unusual money tree structures (some versions have the top prize of less than a million, and some other versions have a quadrupled or even octupled jump between question 14 and question 15). I hope they revive the money tree so they may look good and reasonable.

here's what it should be:

15 €1.000.000
14 €500.000
13 €250.000
12 €125.000
11 €64.000
10 €32.000
9 €16.000
8 €8.000
7 €4.000
6 €2.000
5 €1.000
4 €500
3 €300
2 €200
1 €100

but that's what happens:

1. Austrian.
Q# Euro                  Schilling
1    100 Euro             1.000 ATS
2    200 Euro             2.000 ATS
3    300 Euro             3.000 ATS
4    400 Euro          5.000 ATS
5    500 Euro          10.000 ATS
6    1.000 Euro          20.000 ATS
7    2.000 Euro       40.000 ATS
8    5.000 Euro          80.000 ATS
9    10.000 Euro        160.000 ATS
10  15.000 Euro       320.000 ATS
11  30.000 Euro        640.000 ATS
12  75.000 Euro        1.250.000 ATS
13  150.000 Euro      2.500.000 ATS
14  300.000 Euro       5.000.000 ATS
15 1.000.000 Euro    10.000.000 ATS

2. Belgian
Flemish

Q# Euro                    Franc
1 25 Euro                  1.000
2 50 Euro                  2.000
3 125 Euro              5.000
4 250 Euro              10.000
5 500 Euro              20.000
6 1.000 Euro          40.000
7 2.000 Euro          80.000
8 4.000 Euro          150.000
9 8.000 Euro          300.000
10 12.500 Euro      500.000
11 25.000 Euro      1.000.000
12 50.000 Euro      2.000.000
13 125.000 Euro      5.000.000
14 250.000 Euro      10.000.000
15 1.000.000 Euro 20.000.000

Wallonian

Q# Euro                    Franc
1 25 Euro                  1.000
2 50 Euro                  2.000
3 125 Euro                5.000
4 250 Euro                10.000
5 500 Euro              20.000
6 1.000 Euro          40.000
7 2.000 Euro             80.000
8 4.000 Euro             150.000
9 8.000 Euro             300.000
10 12.500 Euro         500.000
11 25.000 Euro         1.000.000
12 50.000 Euro         2.000.000
13 75.000 Euro       3.000.000
14 125.000 Euro       5.000.000
15 1.000.000 Euro 10.000.000 (octupled? what? Why?)

3. Dutch

Q# Euro                Guilder
1 25 Euro                50
2 50 Euro                100
3 125 Euro            250
4 250 Euro             500
5 500 Euro               1.000
6 1.000 Euro            2.000
7 2.000 Euro            4.000
8 4.000 Euro          8.000
9 8.000 Euro            16.000
10 16.000 Euro      32.000
11 32.000 Euro      64.000
12 64.000 Euro 125.000
13 125.000 Euro 250.000
14 250.000 Euro 500.000
15 1.000.000 Euro    1.000.000

4. Finnish

Q# Euro Markka
1 100 Euro 500
2 300 Euro 1.000
3 500 Euro 2.500
4 750 Euro 5.000
5 1.000 Euro 10.000
6 2.000 Euro 15.000
7 3.000 Euro 30.000
8 5.000 Euro 50.000
9 7.000 Euro 75.000
10 10.00 Euro 100.000
11 15.000 Euro 150.000
12 30.000 Euro 250.000
13 60.000 Euro 350.000
14 200.000 Euro 500.000
15 1.000.000 Euro 1.000.000

5. French
Q# Euro Franc
1 200 Euro 1000
2 300 Euro 2000
3 500 Euro 3000
4 800 Euro 5000
5 1.500 Euro 10.000
6 3.000 Euro 20.000
7 6.000 Euro 40.000
8 12.000 Euro 80.000
9 24.000 Euro 150.000
10 48.00 Euro 300.000
11 72.000 Euro 500.000
12 100.000 Euro 700.000
13 150.000 Euro 1.000.000
14 300.000 Euro 2.000.000
15 1.000.000 Euro 4.000.000

6. German

Q# Euro Mark
1 50 Euro 100
2 100 Euro 200
3 200 Euro 300
4 300 Euro 500
5 500 Euro 1.000
6 1.000 Euro 2.000
7 2.000 Euro 4.000
8 4.000 Euro 8.000
9 8.000 Euro 16.000
10 16.00 Euro 32.000
11 32.000 Euro 64.000
12 64.000 Euro 125.000
13 125.000 Euro 250.000
14 500.000 Euro 500.000 (quadrupled? Why?)
15 1.000.000 Euro 1.000.000

7. Greek
Q# Euro Drachma

1 100 Euro 50.000
2 200 Euro 75.000
3 300 Euro 100.000
4 400 Euro 150.000
5 500 Euro 200.000
6 1.000 Euro 400.000
7 1.500 Euro 600.000
8 2.000 Euro 800.000
9 4.000 Euro 1.600.000
10 5.000 Euro 2.000.000
11 10.000 Euro 3.000.000
12 20.000 Euro 6.000.000
13 40.000 Euro 12.000.000
14 80.000 Euro 24.000.000
15 150.000 Euro 50.000.000

8. Italy

Q# Euro Lira
1 50 Euro 100.000
2 100 Euro 200.000
3 200 Euro 300.000
4 300 Euro 500.000
5 500 Euro 1.000.000
6 1.000 Euro 2.000.000
7 2.000 Euro 4.000.000
8 4.000 Euro 8.000.000
9 8.000 Euro 16.000.000
10 16.00 Euro 32.000.000
11 35.000 Euro 64.000.000
12 70.000 Euro 125.000.000
13 150.000 Euro 250.000.000
14 300.000 Euro 500.000.000
15 1.000.000 Euro 1.000.000.000

9. Portugal

Q# Euro Escudo
1 25 Euro 5.000
2 50 Euro 10.000
3 125 Euro 25.000
4 250 Euro 50.000
5 500 Euro 75.000
6 750 Euro 150.000
7 1.500 Euro 225.000
8 2.500 Euro 450.000
9 5.000 Euro 900.000
10 10.000 Euro 1.750.000
11 16.000 Euro 3.500.000
12 32.000 Euro 7.500.000
13 64.000 Euro 12.500.000
14 125.000 Euro 25.000.000
15 250.000 Euro 50.000.000

10. Spain

Q# Euro Pesetas
1 100 Euro 25.000
2 200 Euro 50.000
3 300 Euro 75.000
4 500 Euro 150.000
5 1.000 Euro 300.000
6 2.000 Euro 350.000
7 4.000 Euro 450.000
8 6.500 Euro 600.000
9 10.000 Euro 750.000
10 15.000 Euro 1.500.000
11 25.000 Euro 3.000.000
12 50.000 Euro 6.000.000
13 100.000 Euro 12.000.000
14 300.000 Euro 24.000.000
15 1.000.000 Euro 50.000.000

Last Edit: Mar 10, 2018 0:55:07 GMT -5 by rifkialqadri

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some unusual European money trees after Euro changeover Mar 10, 2018 8:11:31 GMT -5

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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2018 8:11:31 GMT -5

Personally, I don't see the interest of these kind of threads...

Mar 10, 2018 0:51:17 GMT -5 rifkialqadri said:

here's what it should be:

15 €1.000.000
14 €500.000
13 €250.000
12 €125.000
11 €64.000
10 €32.000
9 €16.000
8 €8.000
7 €4.000
6 €2.000
5 €1.000
4 €500
3 €300
2 €200
1 €100

How about no? I don't seriously think that is an obligation to follow the original money tree... This choice belong to the main channel who air the gameshow and see what's the most wisely to give for each question, in order to not exceed a defined budget for each country.

Mar 10, 2018 0:51:17 GMT -5 rifkialqadri said:

have had unusual money tree structures

Unusual?... For you, maybe...

As a French resident, the money tree in "Qui Veut Gagner Des Millions ?" doesn't bother me, since 2002 we have this 'structure' has u said before. So you can imagine that I'm familiar with it.
This transition Francs/Euros is simply the approximate conversion for each amount, except the top prize :

1 €uro equals to 6,55957 (or 6,56) Francs

1 500 € equals to 9.839,36 Francs (rounded to 10.000 F)
48 000 € equals to 314.859,36 Francs (rounded to 300.000 F)
1 Million € equals to 6.559.570 Francs (top prize was at 4.000.000 F before the conversion which it equals to 609.796,07 €. So in 2002, the top prize has been rounded to 1 000 000 €).

Seems to be more clearer for you? I hope that most of your posts will not speaking about conversions or money tree amounts... Like this one if u know what I mean...

Last Edit: Mar 10, 2018 18:45:44 GMT -5 by Deleted

Logie Bear Database Database just living in the database Posts: 329	some unusual European money trees after Euro changeover Mar 14, 2018 10:20:06 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Logie Bear on Mar 14, 2018 10:20:06 GMT -5 The format should be this... 1: £1,000,000

rifkialqadri Posts: 283	some unusual European money trees after Euro changeover Mar 14, 2018 22:34:38 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by rifkialqadri on Mar 14, 2018 22:34:38 GMT -5 Mar 14, 2018 10:20:06 GMT -5 Logie Bear said: The format should be this... 1: £1,000,000 only one question? it's not challenging
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some unusual European money trees after Euro changeover Mar 15, 2018 9:30:59 GMT -5 via mobile

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Mar 14, 2018 10:20:06 GMT -5 Logie Bear said:

The format should be this...
1: £1,000,000

Oh my god! Logie Bear, you have make a breakthrough on WWTBAM? Your money tree could be used on Classic, Clock, 12 question or even shuffle! I can sure that your money tree will be used all country that is still having Millionare and the rating will be up! Great job, dude. (For those don’t understand, this is a joke).

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Post by The Captain on Mar 19, 2018 15:38:46 GMT -5

I think that the poster is right about at least one thing. The show is called Who Wants to be a Millionaire and as such I think it is appropriate for all versions to give out at least a 1.000.000 prize, even if the budget is not the same for every country. Otherwise it feels severely out of place. “Let’s play Millionaire, but you will only get 150.000”... feels rather unintuitive and breaks the show’s concept that the prize is symbolically 1.000.000.

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some unusual European money trees after Euro changeover Mar 20, 2018 21:59:46 GMT -5

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Mar 19, 2018 15:38:46 GMT -5 The Captain said:

in some European countries, they gave out less than a million because the top prize was the direct conversion of the previous top prize (or, in some cases, only the previous 14 questions' prizes were direct conversions). This happens in the Greek and Portuguese versions. in Greek version, the top prize was 50 million drahma (146 735 euro), which was converted and rounded to 150 000 euro. in the Portuguese version, the top prize was 50 million escudos (249 399 euro), which was converted and rounded to 250 000 euro. and I personally don't like that. the best example to emulate is the Irish version, which keep the similar pattern despite currency changeover.

Yes, on the face of it, they should give at least a million prize (but not necessarily a million after conversion to higher currencies such as Euro, Pound sterling or U.S. dollar). the top prize must at least be able to buy a few family cars at the time of the show (based on what I was observing). that's why I created the top prize range suggestions in my thread, i.e. 100 000 pounds sterling<top prize<=1 000 000 pound sterling.

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some unusual European money trees after Euro changeover Mar 21, 2018 6:05:40 GMT -5

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Post by tts500 on Mar 21, 2018 6:05:40 GMT -5

Mar 20, 2018 21:59:46 GMT -5 rifkialqadri said:

They did, but €1 = £0.787564 (£1 = €1.269738), while Irish producers converted prizes at rate: 1 pound = 1 euro.
This means:

Question Number	Prize in pounds/euros	Euro prizes converted to pounds
1	£/€100	£78.76
2	£/€200	£157.51
3	£/€300	£236.27
4	£/€500	£393.78
5	£/€1,000	£787.56
6	£/€2,000	£1,575.13
7	£/€4,000	£3,150.26
8	£/€8,000	£6,300.51
9	£/€16,000	£12,601.02
10	£/€32,000	£25,202.05
11	£/€64,000	£50,404.10
12	£/€125,000	£98,445.50
13	£/€250,000	£196,891.00
14	£/€500,000	£393,782.00
15	£/€1,000,000	£787,564.00

Last Edit: Mar 21, 2018 6:06:05 GMT -5 by tts500

The Captain Fan Games Pass Holder Millionaire fan since 2001. Game creator since 2011 Posts: 56	some unusual European money trees after Euro changeover Apr 3, 2018 16:23:56 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by The Captain on Apr 3, 2018 16:23:56 GMT -5 Well rifkialqadri I undertand they directly converted the amounts, but if the amount becomes significantly less than 1.000.000 it looks kinda cheap.

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