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Post by thejinkazama on Jun 30, 2018 8:53:50 GMT -5
Hi folks,
I'm looking for some recommendations of materials to watch/read regarding the show. I've read Bad Show and watched Millionaire: Magic Moments and More. I'm interested in finding out some more about how the show was/is run in the UK, US and elsewhere. I'd also be keen to see some classic episodes if any come to mind.
Thanks!
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Post by millionairenut on Jul 6, 2018 23:23:04 GMT -5
There are quite a few I would recommend so that way you could see how each show is run.
First of all, if you have not done so already, I think it's imperative that you watch this video on all of the U.S. Millionaires so you can see our contestants and how we've done things over here, as well as the kind of questions. Obviously, Britain has had Million Pound Questions that are easy for us, like Steve Devlin and Pat Gibson, but there was a $500,000 question in 2002 Primetime asking who preceded Margaret Thatcher as prime minister, and the contestant walked.
In case you don't know the back story on the last Millionaire, it was a Tournament of Ten. Someone was going to win the million. The top ten with the highest amount won in a regular game qualified for a single million dollar question. If they qualified, they'd be in the lead. They had the option to walk and keep their original winnings, but if they went for it and missed, they'd drop back to $25,000 as if it were a regular game.
I highly recommend watching the U.K. 20th anniversary specials, and I take it you have done so.
I also want to share with you part one of Hooman Vojdani's run. You may know him as the man who won One Million Euros in Austria just last month in June 2018. I think fans in the English language shows especially should watch this because of how so much of it is the same game, but so much of it is so radically different. I pointed out the specifics last month in a thread about his win. Watch this run, and you'll notice many of the fundamental differences.
Next, I want to share with you Rob Fulton's Million Dollar win in 2005.
There's a few reasons I recommend watching this.
#1 It's a Millionaire, and his country's first at that.
#2 For whatever reason, Australian Millionaire isn't as common in internet videos as the U.S. and U.K. are. You could binge watch for weeks and months on end of the kind of content between America and Britain, but Australia is less common. To put things in perspective, Martin Flood's run is not online. This one video is the only thing I've seen of it.
That is all the footage, to my knowledge, that exists on Martin Flood's win on the internet.
#3 Watch the special after Rob Fulton's win. The knowledge, the dedication and the prophecy of his win is truly breathtaking.
There's no way I can go without sharing this. I simply have no words.
No country has had more top prize winners, and more top prize losers than Japan has. There's a ton of good content on Japan, and Mino Monta has entertained me with how he conducted himself on the show, but I wanted to share this with you just to show how different they do things compared to us.
Look at this. It's like they build it up, hype it up like it's a sporting event. They rolled out the red carpet with a grand entrance. They treat Millionaire like a big deal, at least for their celebrities. What other country do you know does this? Sure, the U.S. and U.K. have had numerous celebrities throughout the years, and Australia, too, with Molly Meldrum reaching the Million Dollar Question, but how many of them got the royal treatment before they were about to reach the hot seat? How many were on pins and needles as they made a grand entrance onto the stage? You can tell what Millionaire means to the Japanese culture, and also the use of final answer is interesting.
That's all I have for now. I'm hoping you enjoy this content, and I'm hoping this also leads you to other content in the future.
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Post by thejinkazama on Jul 7, 2018 8:31:23 GMT -5
Thanks once again. I'm on holiday now so will make some time to watch this over the next while and report back.
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Post by thejinkazama on Jul 9, 2018 16:12:39 GMT -5
Having watched the Million winners once again (I have seen most of them individually over the years), I have a few observations. Firstly, regardless of how often I watch them, I still get the chills when the correct answer is revealed and the audience cheers. The raw emotion that some of the contestants show illustrate how special the moment is.
I've noticed an interesting comparison in comment sections of John Carpenter and Ken Basin's videos. I have observed some commenters referring to them both as arrogant however the consensus I took away from the comments was this was a positive trait in John's case but negative for Ken (given his loss). Personally I perceive this to be unfair; would Ken be held in the same high regard for his antics as John if he too had won the Million?
I am mostly familiar with the UK version hosted by Chris Tarrant. The difference in presentation style between him and Regis is stark to me. I found there to be little to no tension once contestants had locked in their final answer. Is this simply his style or would this be better suited to US audiences? When Meredith made the joke about rounding down the number to get the correct answer, this struck me as something which Chris would have done.
I also noticed that there is no long celebration following the Million win. In the UK Chris would often stand with the contestant and their family/friend and give a speech to the camera about the win.
From the few videos I have seen here, I occasionally found Regis' presentation to be a little unpolished. Examples from the Million winners compilation include talking whilst the contestant's 30 seconds for Phone-A-Friend have begun and asking if a contestant is giving his final answer once it has been locked in. Would anyone agree with what I've said?
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Hooman Vojdani's run was indeed brilliant. I couldn't understand what was being said but I loved the camaraderie between him and the host. I noticed that he didn't seem to ask if it was his final answer a few times, particularly when he seemed to answer before the 4 options appeared.
The set design is very nice, I especially liked the green lights for the first 5 questions. They seemed to use the £1000 lights down cue after each correct answer for questions 5-9 then reverted to the usual cue for questions 11-14. I wonder why this is. I noticed that the UK 20th anniversary specials used a few unusual cues too.
I watched the second part of the video to see him win the million. I find the jump from 300,000€ to 1 million to be very strange. Why such a huge jump? Additionally, I did not understand the 4th ?? lifeline. I expected it to be revealed on the 15th question but it didn't appear. Why is this?
That really is very bizarre that there is so little footage of Flood's win online. Any idea why?
"Economics was actually the right answer... NO" I'm going to make that my signature. Looks like most of the run is on YouTube, that should be entertaining.
That Japanese clip was great, what a build up to the reveal of the Final Answer.
I really appreciate the time you've taken to compile these. Do I win any awards for the longest post? 🤣
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Post by thejinkazama on Jul 11, 2018 9:45:57 GMT -5
I'm halfway through watching the Rob Fulton video and the YouTube audio has suddenly stopped working on my phone. My partner is experiencing the same issue. Is anyone else getting this?
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Post by exambolor on Jul 11, 2018 18:56:12 GMT -5
I'm halfway through watching the Rob Fulton video and the YouTube audio has suddenly stopped working on my phone. My partner is experiencing the same issue. Is anyone else getting this? Don't worry, for some reason they repeat the episode again in the video muted.
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Post by millionairenut on Jul 11, 2018 19:49:44 GMT -5
In response to your watching of the videos: Yes. It seems like there is a double standard when somebody succeeds versus somebody fails. Did you ever watch UK Deal or No Deal? One woman won the top prize of 250,000 with the other box containing 1p. The comments on her win called her brave. Another woman got 1p between that and 250,000, but she was called greedy. That seems to happen with the Carpenter's vs. the Basin's. If you win, it's great. If you lose, it gets frowned upon. Regis was never one to give suspense. He seldom did this and never really had much delay. If you watch David Edwards win the Million, Chris really dragged it out. Regis really cut to the chase. Meredith messed with the contestant. Here's an example of Regis giving suspense. I think this particular incident helped give Millionaire some of its charm. As far as him being unpolished, the clock should have started when he stopped talking, or should have talked talking once he gave the cue for the answers in Bob House's question, but yes, in the case of Dan Blonsky winning the Million, as Chris Tarrant always said, once it goes to orange, there's no going back. I guess Regis did not expect Blonsky to just go for it like that. So, he wasn't always perfect. There's not a particularly long celebration with Millionaires, but at least there's something in the U.S. Take a look at Igor Sazeev winning the top prize in Russia in 2001. Now that's underwhelming. Sure, Chris didn't give a big speech or stand with them, but this did happen on Primetime Millionaire a couple of times. Watch the end of those two videos. I'm not sure why Millionaire never did this again. Maybe it's because it went into too much time on the show and to edit? However, they did spend time with Bob House and Kim Hunt after their wins. These are the only two times this happened, I believe. However, when Tom Hoobler won $500,000 in 2001, they aired him talking to his wife on the phone after he walked away from the Million Dollar Question: There was a discussion on Hooman Vojdani's win on this forum last month. ThePaSch did a great job, as he gave answers to some of the same questions I myself had about the show: regisfan.proboards.com/thread/3642/austria-die-millionenshow-winner-2018The jump is very interesting, but it's not unprecedented, I guess. Millionaire Hot Seat in Australia jumps from $250,000 to $1,000,000 in its money tree. I do not know why Martin Flood's Million Dollar win is not online. I am hoping one day it will be. I remember a few years ago, Trevor Sauer's run was online, and I think William Laing's run was on, too. For whatever reasons, these videos have since been taken down. You can, however, see Martin Flood, Trevor Sauer, William Laing and Rob Fulton all in action here: It's not Millionaire, but it's a great place to watch Millionaire alums compete, and also a chance to test your knowledge: Yes. There really was nothing like Aroma's win. The complete run is online. I really like the Nigerian version, and Frank Edoho is one of my favorite hosts in the series. I even made a thread about Frank on this forum. regisfan.proboards.com/thread/3661/frank-edohoMino Monta did this a lot. Chris called him a master of suspense. This one video was not an outlier. He did this all the time: I'll have to get back to you on the awards. It seems like you are having a lot of fun watching these.
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Post by thejinkazama on Jul 27, 2018 13:20:38 GMT -5
I do remember DOND and the gambles you mentioned. It’s an interesting insight into how we think, isn’t it?
“I’m a fat man” is a great clip. My brother and I are both Millionarie fans and frequent note the differences between audience participation in the show. I love the way that Regis and Meredith (“Audience, are you ready?”) got the others in the room involved too. I feel that was pretty lacking from the UK version. Perhaps it’s a cultural difference.
Poor Igor, he didn’t get any confetti or anything! It was nice to see Regis do the part which Chris normally did with millionaires. It was also weird to see contestants leave through the host’s entrance. I don’t think I’ve seen that before.
Mino Monta really is great. I love the way they dramatically cut to different cameras and even zoom in. He waited so long that the final answer cue stopped playing!
Thank you for linking me to those other forums, I too learned a fair bit about other versions of the show. Allowing contestants to choose which version of the game to play (number of lifelines and safety nets) really is clever.
Thanks once again for all your contributions, I’m learning a great deal from you.
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Post by millionairenut on Jul 27, 2018 17:18:10 GMT -5
I do remember DOND and the gambles you mentioned. It’s an interesting insight into how we think, isn’t it? “I’m a fat man” is a great clip. My brother and I are both Millionarie fans and frequent note the differences between audience participation in the show. I love the way that Regis and Meredith (“Audience, are you ready?”) got the others in the room involved too. I feel that was pretty lacking from the UK version. Perhaps it’s a cultural difference. Poor Igor, he didn’t get any confetti or anything! It was nice to see Regis do the part which Chris normally did with millionaires. It was also weird to see contestants leave through the host’s entrance. I don’t think I’ve seen that before. Mino Monta really is great. I love the way they dramatically cut to different cameras and even zoom in. He waited so long that the final answer cue stopped playing! Thank you for linking me to those other forums, I too learned a fair bit about other versions of the show. Allowing contestants to choose which version of the game to play (number of lifelines and safety nets) really is clever. Thanks once again for all your contributions, I’m learning a great deal from you. You are more than welcome. Yes, Deal or No Deal, Millionaire, it doesn't matter what it is. If it pays off, you're brave. If you lose, you're greedy. It certainly seems like the audiences are more lively here. I also notice there's a stark contrast when going for big money. If a contestant in the U.S. goes for it, the audience is silent. Meanwhile, in the U.K., the audience would gasp, nervously laugh or clap. I noticed that. It seemed like a bigger deal if someone in the U.K. went for it on a big question. Yes, some did leave the way the host entered. Those are the only instances I can think of it anywhere in the franchise. Choosing which version does allow a strategy and a different set of it. The same thing was true in the U.K. as well when contestants were allowed to choose their own safety net. I'm not sure if I agreed with setting the safety net only after a person set all of their lifelines, which seemed to be a common strategy, but would really have helped, in my opinion.
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Post by thejinkazama on Jul 28, 2018 12:41:43 GMT -5
I know what you mean about the UK audiences. Are we a more risk-averse nation on the whole?
I'm not quite sure what you meant when you said that someone "set all of their lifelines". Can you clarify for me?
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Post by millionairenut on Jul 28, 2018 14:39:15 GMT -5
I know what you mean about the UK audiences. Are we a more risk-averse nation on the whole? I'm not quite sure what you meant when you said that someone "set all of their lifelines". Can you clarify for me? My bad. I worded that wrong. I meant used. It felt like some people set their safety net only after the fact they used all of their lifelines. There are two ways I would have gone with this. I would either have set it at £32,000 for the simple fact that I'm old school, or I would have made sure I set my safety net with at least one lifeline still on the table.
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Post by thejinkazama on Jul 28, 2018 14:45:52 GMT -5
I'm with you now, thanks for clarifying. I'm inclined to agree with you, probably more with the latter. Whilst I'm old school, if there's a chance to be guaranteed a slightly higher sum (say 64k), I'd likely lean towards that option.
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