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Post by supermillionaire on Oct 24, 2017 17:41:21 GMT -5
In a previous thread about contestants losing horribly, or as the internet likes to say, failing epically, I posted about the social psychological concepts of fundamental attribution error and actor-observer asymmetry, which I think a social psychologist should do an experiment on. Since then, I've taken more psychology classes, and I've learned more about the concept of empathy, which is feeling with another person. However, from what I've seen on the internet, I feel as though I am witnessing what some people are calling "the end of empathy." They have no capacity to feel with other people, and they post nasty, hateful, callous comments to other people, and they engage in schadenfreude, which is taking joy in someone else's misfortunes. This can best be seen when people upload other people's embarrassing moments to YouTube, where they go viral for all the wrong reasons. I have a message for all of the internet trolls out there who like to see contestants lose horribly.
Put yourselves in the contestant's position. How would you feel if you went on the show and lost horribly? I bet you that you wouldn't like it at all. It's only funny when it happens to someone else; once it happens to you, then it's not so funny anymore, now, is it? Let's see you get on the show, and see how long you last in the hot seat. That is unless of course you're cowards, who are too afraid of being humiliated yourselves, so you revel in and take joy in other people's humiliations. (I'll openly admit that I'm afraid of being humiliated in public on national television, but I will NOT revel in other people's humiliations.) It's NOT funny to see contestants fail epically! It's NOT funny to see contestants lose horribly! And if you think that those contestants are stupid, just for not knowing the answers to those particular questions, let's see how you fare in the hot seat! As former British host Chris Tarrant always said, the questions are only easy if you know the answers, and it's just such a shame whenever an occasion occurs in which they don't know the answer. It's not that these contestants were stupid; they just didn't know the answer to those particular questions; if you didn't know, you didn't know. But it's also the lack of any room for error that is to blame for these contestants' humiliating exits; whether you lose on one of the first five questions and leave with absolutely nothing at all, or go all the way up the money tree, only to lose on one of the last two questions and have your winnings decimated, there is absolutely no room for error; make one mistake, and the game is over, and your winnings will be decimated, if not completely wiped out altogether. They give you lifelines to prevent you from committing an error, but once you commit an error, that's it; it's all over.
Also, regarding the internet's popular usage of the word fail as an interjection, as opposed to the way the word is traditionally used: people seem to think that using the word fail as an interjection is funny, and if it's particularly bad, it is often combined with the word epic. Sometimes, for comedic effect, it will be typed in ALL CAPS (i.e., FAIL). Why? Just why? Why fail instead of failure? Why FAIL instead of fail? And why, for that matter, does it have to be "epic"? Now, when it comes to grammar, "epic fail" is a grammatically incorrect noun; the proper noun would be "epic failure," or, to make it a proper verb, it would be "to fail epically," in present tense, or in past tense, "failed epically." The opposite of a fail, in internet slang, is not pass, succeed, or success, but win. The only time you should use the word win is when you're playing a game, contest, or competition; in this case, you can use the word win, since this is a game show. However, in situations when you're playing a game, contest, or competition, instead of using the word fail, you should use the words loss and lose instead; lose means "fail to win". In video games, if you don't win, the game announcer and the screen says "You Lose".
Long story short, don't make fun of contestants who lose horribly, because you wouldn't be laughing if it happened to you. Remember the golden rule: don't do to others what you don't want done to you.
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Post by wwtbamfangamer on Oct 25, 2017 3:41:13 GMT -5
I can and do see your point, and certainly I don't take pleasure of people losing large sums of money or even walking away with nothing.
But for me it depends on the attitude and personality of the contestant and the way they play the game. If they have a "genuine" and a good personality or sometimes play carefully and (sometimes) risk just to see if they do success or fail, then I would be more inclined to feel sorry and hope they did have a good time being in the studio and being lucky to be there. If it's someone who is cocky, all up themselves, too confident or have a horrible personality and play unfairly and recklessly by pure guessing or at a few times cheating, and perhaps smug (in a way that it doesn't please people and in a negative way), then I wouldn't be inclined to feel sorry.
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Post by supermillionaire on Oct 26, 2017 10:58:17 GMT -5
Yes, that's certainly true; if you're cocky, you'll get the comeuppance that you deserve, but still, when people who aren't cocky fall victim to bad luck, it's not funny at all. It's very disappointing. It's not nice to make fun of other people's misfortunes.
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Post by multimillionaire93 on Oct 26, 2017 15:34:38 GMT -5
On top of that, on the official shows, I have never heard any audience outright laugh at a contestant when they got an easy question wrong! All I hear is groan in sadness and/or applause.
YouTube user segasonic623's fan series is the only instance I know of where the audience did laugh at the contestant when they got a first-tier question wrong.
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Post by retched on Oct 27, 2017 15:17:31 GMT -5
On top of that, on the official shows, I have never heard any audience outright laugh at a contestant when they got an easy question wrong! All I hear is groan in sadness and/or applause. YouTube user segasonic623's fan series is the only instance I know of where the audience did laugh at the contestant when they got a first-tier question wrong. to be completely fair. It seems he sets those up to be more comedy than anything.
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Post by supermillionaire on Oct 28, 2017 9:44:07 GMT -5
Let me expand on my original message:
Most of the home viewers who upload unlucky contestants to YouTube and then laugh at them for not knowing the answers to the questions that they were faced take joy in other people's humiliations, but they're cowards who are too scared of being humiliated themselves, so they revel in and take joy in other people's humiliations. However, there are some internet trolls who are cocky and arrogant, and think that they can do better than the unlucky contestants that they upload to YouTube and laugh at. I got a message for you: If you're cocky and arrogant, and think that you can do better than the unlucky contestants that you upload to YouTube, good; then let's see you get into the hot seat, and if you fail epically, then let's see how you deal with the humiliating consequences of your own epic failure.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2017 10:20:28 GMT -5
Now, I'm not exactly a person who jugdes someone, but I still have to agree with supermillionaire - it is NOT funny to laugh at people who have failed in a question, because the same thing might happen to that person as well. Besides, everybody had made mistakes before, so nobody should be humiliated because of that.
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Post by supermillionaire on Nov 9, 2017 9:31:54 GMT -5
The reason why so many contestants have been sentenced to humiliating exits from the show and a lifetime of viral humiliation on YouTube is because there is no room for error. Make just one mistake, and your game is terminated instantly, and your winnings will be decimated, if not completely wiped out altogether. They give you lifelines in order to prevent you from committing an error, but once you commit an error, that's it; it's all over.
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Post by supermillionaire on Nov 16, 2017 10:36:09 GMT -5
And here's another thing that you should keep in mind when you watch someone lose horribly on the show: don't think that what happened to them won't also happen to you, because it can.
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Post by FinalAnswer19 on Nov 18, 2017 1:35:48 GMT -5
And here's another thing that you should keep in mind when you watch someone lose horribly on the show: don't think that what happened to them won't also happen to you, because it can. Kind of stretching the double-posting rule. Not a great thing to do with an already-established warning level...
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Post by supermillionaire on Nov 20, 2017 15:23:48 GMT -5
Sometimes I do it because I haven't got what I wanted out of it yet.
Anyway, going back to the original topic, people shouldn't laugh when contestants lose, because it's not funny; it's disappointing and sad. You wouldn't like it if it happened to you, so show some empathy.
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Post by wwtbamfangamer on Nov 21, 2017 9:11:39 GMT -5
Not being funny, we are not here to give what you want. This is a matter of opinion and people's mind set or people's experience. But also, in this case, how contestants behave. If you don't get what you want in terms of a reaction or understanding or a response, that's tough! It happens to everyone, but we move on and keep our opinions to ourselves
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Post by millionaireloveruk on Nov 21, 2017 12:55:35 GMT -5
Also, if you want to get more out of a discussion, put across different points and arguments. Don't just repeat yourself loads of times until eventually somebody decides to reply. Also your writing style in these kind of threads seems very (and unnecessarily) angry. This makes it very hard to respond to.
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Post by supermillionaire on Nov 21, 2017 15:49:05 GMT -5
If I'm not yet satisfied with the answers or responses that I've gotten from a topic, then I'll bump it up.
And why does my writing style make people angry?
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Post by millionaireloveruk on Nov 21, 2017 16:05:05 GMT -5
You can’t just bump threads until you get a response - if people don’t care, then people don’t care, it’s as simple as that.
Also, I didn’t say your style makes people angry, but you yourself seem angry, which makes it very difficult to respond to, as often people don’t want to get into an argument, so will avoid situations that could lead to conflict, and it seems if you disagree or throw a counter point in, they’ll get their head bitten off.
Bottom line, if people feel a conversation isn’t for them, there is no need to try and force a response - all it will do is make you look bad, and very, very annoying.
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